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Hi guys, I'm one of the relatively new members and also a relatively new player, but I did play some warcraft 3 before i got here. I have been doing nothing but Dutch so far and have had the most trouble against chinese rush so I was hoping someone could help me learn by rushing as chinese against me, and actually against any civ by the way, always happy to play unrated, especially if getting rushed.

My general counter strategy and strategy in general has so far been to start out, build a bunch of skirms, and a tower or three to fend off rushes and build up that oh so wonderful rediculous Dutch economy. Also looking for tips as I really don't know much about this game yet. And honestly I am strongly considering all out rushing myself just to get games over with quicker.
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whisper me whenever you see me online, I'll help you where I can

play CM if they rush you ;)
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Don't know if this strat works most times, but Wormwood (Dutch) just posted a replay against sorcK (China), where both FF'd and the Dutch did a 4 bank FF. China guy attacks with 7 mortars and 3,000 disciples. Dutch guy goes 12 Swiss Pikemen and wipes out all mortars and disciples, with something like 7 Pikemen still alive, who proceed into China's territory. At this point, China has his pants down around his ankles and is fumbling around to recover. Dutch has both Halb cards in his deck and starts spamming Halbs. GG shortly after that.

Just one strat to consider. The China guy had won 18 straight games before that with China.

You gotta see this replay...Age Sanctuary...General replays.

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sounds interesting, i think ill try that outin scenario and see how effective it is, perhaps add some swiss to my deck.

havnt used towers lately, been using 4 bank ff, mainly focusing on cranking out falcs per harleys advice, and being agressive. finding more and more start countering with culvs, not sure if thats cuz they are scouting me out, or im taking too long.

curious what most people think is best to take out culvs, ruyters or more culvs? suppose it depends alot on the opponent though
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If you know the Chinese guy is gonna FF, then play CM as Chaos mentioned, then survive and outboom him. Easy to do w/Dutch. Kill his explorer so he can't keep spamming disciples. Get to Three and send Merc Cav and pikemen. Chinese sucks against cav. I'll be on tomorrow and try to get you in an unrated game.
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curious what most people think is best to take out culvs, ruyters or more culvs? suppose it depends alot on the opponent though
It depends. If the culvs are well protected with skirm, that's a place where my ruyters do not want to go. Since I already have an artillery foundry up, building culvs is not too hard. Since they take so long to train and so long to arrive in battle, and my falcs are sitting around useless until the culvs arrive, I don't skimp on my first batch. It sucks to train 2 culvs, wait for them, go into battle and then see that your enemy has his original 2 culvs + 2 more that he trained.

Now once I have won the culv war, I can bring my falcs back into battle to own. If my opponent responds by training a whole crapload of culvs + skirm, then I might respond by investing in more culvs myself, this is because as Dutch with my natural gold I know I have a huge advantage in a culv war. However I might also use this time to send the Stradiots from the church, and perhaps combined with some hussars, mop up their culverins in melee. If they have gone for culv + heavy infantry, or he has a big mass of culv but no falconets, this may be a great time to build up a force of ruyter + skirm.
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