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[quote=""Sporting_Lisbon""]Dunno why [/quote]

me neither :roll:

Well, currently the Iro Toma Rush (Big Buttons), if executed properly, is an easy win for the Iros against the Germans.

Once the patch comes out, however, I think Germany will be fine against Iro.

Just like a simple Ashi or Musket rush works vs germans. I tried some semi FF against such a tactic and it worked ok, but xbows definitely need that multiplier vs HI.

Yea, Germans are the weakest in the game against HI rushes atm, IMO. Jan / Ashi / Musket rush are all very effective against them.

Next patch I think it may be a different story, although Musk / Hussar will probably still own xbow / pike unless the xbow player has great micro (this applies to France too).

[quote=""KingKaramazov""]Well, currently the Iro Toma Rush (Big Buttons), if executed properly, is an easy win for the Iros against the Germans.

Once the patch comes out, however, I think Germany will be fine against Iro.[/quote]

that's nice theory, but I'd like to see that in practice, tommies r a crappy musk-type of unit

[quote=""HuggyPierre""][quote=""Navarone_Guy""]As I said, I can't go for the water because, due to my computer, I can't watch water battles and therefore can't protect my fishing boats.[/quote]

Sounds like someone needs a new computer.[/quote]

I'm on a laptop, and I'm poor, so I can't get a new one.

[quote=""I__CHAOS__I""][quote=""KingKaramazov""]Well, currently the Iro Toma Rush (Big Buttons), if executed properly, is an easy win for the Iros against the Germans.

Once the patch comes out, however, I think Germany will be fine against Iro.[/quote]

that's nice theory, but I'd like to see that in practice, tommies r a crappy musk-type of unit[/quote]

Doesn't matter how much they suck when you have 36 of them before the German can get a decent amount of xbows / uhlans.

Doesn't matter how much they suck when you have 36 of them before the German can get a decent amount of xbows / uhlans.

What a joke. Those 36 tomahawks require 1500f 400c 500w, 6 toma card and 600c card, get yourself two rax and make a double rax xbow spam. If the german FFs when the iro is rushing the german deserves to lose.

Considering the BO for Toma BB Rush is the same as FF, I wouldn't be at all surprised.

Germans suck against HI rushes, it's that simple. Next patch with BB techs moved to Age 3 and crossbows boosted, they might be better off. We'll see.

It's true they're not good but you have told us nothing about it And the BO doesn't matter since you say BBR is free win, you should expect that as german. Next patch they have zero problems.

[quote=""Navarone_Guy""][quote=""HuggyPierre""][quote=""Navarone_Guy""]As I said, I can't go for the water because, due to my computer, I can't watch water battles and therefore can't protect my fishing boats.[/quote]

Sounds like someone needs a new computer.[/quote]

I'm on a laptop, and I'm poor, so I can't get a new one. [/quote]

Playing such a game on such a high level on a laptop is pretty op. On a good PC you probably would be a Brigadier or something .

[quote=""Sporting_Lisbon""]It's true they're not good but you have told us nothing about it And the BO doesn't matter since you say BBR is free win, you should expect that as german. Next patch they have zero problems.[/quote]

I've seen multiple recs where the rush owns Germany.

Perhaps as you say they will be adequately equipped next patch and it's a non-issue anyway.

The original point was that Iro > Germany. I find myself solidly agreeing with that. Even if the Toma Rush doesn't take out Germany, just refer to one of the recs you posted, Lisbon, where you beat a very solid German player with Iro FF.

i have to agree with KK, toma rush does own germany hXc xD (until the patch comes, which is..?)

what does germany have vs. tomas ??

xbows..? no, not vs. ~30-36 tomas
uhlans..? haha
outlaws? not really
^

well you understand what im getting at.

Patch comes out tomorrow

I agree with Sporting... unless the german is some idiot doing a FI, a tommy rush shouldn't be difficult to counter.

Germany has hard times vs HI rushes... true when those are GOOD HI, like musks, jans, ashi's etc... Tommy's r da crap