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I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:20 pm
by I__CHAOS__I
Caesár joined our clan so I challenged him for a little 1v1 :twisted:
He has only 15 PR more than me ;)

Have fun watching !

I had little hunt and only 1 mine i think, but that didnt matter

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:56 pm
by Soccerman771
Description "me got bbq'd" - well I guess we know who won. Will give her a watch though..

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:26 pm
by djdan
Yeah I watched this game, I can't believe how royally screwed you got with the hunts and min Chaos LOL
It seemed very closeat the beginning and Im still curious how he stoped you on numerous occasions it seemed he was outnumbered whenever you attacked!

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:54 pm
by KingKaramazov
Holy crap! PR 35 in our clan? Awesome!

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:56 pm
by I__CHAOS__I
I watched it again and I had 1 mine and 2 hunts compared to his 4 mines and 6 hunts lol - usually this map (NWT) is rather balanced tho
Even the treasures were mostly on his side (7 vs 4).

If he hadn't spotted my raxes, he would have shipped 4 vils instead of 5 ashi's, which could have made a big difference for me.

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:12 am
by Soccerman771
[quote=""KingKaramazov""]Holy crap! PR 35 in our clan? Awesome![/quote]

Yeah and he out-paces the highest ELO by well more than 100....

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:04 am
by Navarone_Guy
Well, I hope to get my ELO back up there after the patch. It dropped over 150 points cause of a losing streak I had.

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:24 am
by huGGy
Finally he joined :). Chaos, play more rated games. Help get our clan up a little bit :P.

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:13 am
by KingKaramazov
Tons of people in our clan need to play more rated games, get the average up to where it should be.

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:26 am
by Sun_Tzu1
I've watched that one through 3 times now!

Wasn't too sure what to expect, but Chaos you're the man! You did really well. Nothing to be ashamed of there.

Okay, easy to comment with hindsight, but...

Your rush was good. Caesar had gone for the market so you'd expect to have a little advantage earlier on.

At 9 minutes you took down his barracks leaving him without one. He was slowly building another barracks with one settler. Unfortunately, you decided to work on taking down his market instead :p. Bet you could kick yourself right? If you'd taken your muskets towards the barracks which was going up the game might realistically have been yours.

Anyway, lots of scrapping and pretty even for most of the game. When you were attacking you were doing well. Again, at one point, I think you had a numerical advantage in attack numbers but unfortunately, 5 or so of your muskets were seiging the market again by mistake (i.e., they were effectively idle). If you'd brought them in that particular battle would have turned in your favour.

A couple of times you retreated when it looked as if you'd have done well to continue attacking. However, obviously, it's different watching the playback. For all I know you might have done it to give you a moment to tidy your eco.

The game seemed to slip away from you a bit when you retreated and took those pikes around the back to attack his barracks. As it turned out, they were pretty much thrown away.

What I found interesting was the way Caesar divided his army, sort of surrounding you, and was running away so much with the part of his army you moved to attack. I was trying to work out why he was doing that. Was he withdrawing to maximise the time his TC had to fire at you? Was he trying to draw you away from his barracks? Or just skirmish you. Not sure.

Anyway, like you noticed, the map was so one-sided! The lack of resources on your side - vs. his - was a timebomb waiting to happen. It was particularly unfortunate because you forwarded on him. Normally, that opens the maps resources up to you, but not in this case!

gg. And of course, well done Caesar. Glad we're back together again :).

Sun.

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 3:44 am
by I__CHAOS__I
thx for the review Sun, it's appreciated!
I had a hard time to fight his few units at different places (surrounding me), and I never knews exactly how big his army really was, because of that spread-out tactic, first time somebody does that to me

with the pikes I hoped to find a distant shrine I could siege or at least distract him long enough to mass again, yet in vain

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:09 am
by Comadevil
[quote=""KingKaramazov""]Tons of people in our clan need to play more rated games, get the average up to where it should be.[/quote]

Well i lose all my 1v1 :D

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:15 am
by kingchrisII
watched the game and i gotta say great play by both players, i think only his micro saved him their...u had great rush there and good back up..

wp

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:21 am
by Soccerman771
I watched it as well. I agree w/sun_tzu..had you pushed more in the beginning the game probably would have been yours..

Interesting that he had map advantage and better treasures on his side. Caesar also took forever to build a consulate and once he did he didn't pick an alliance right away. I wish that once you chose to build the consulate you could pick your alliance so that it went there automatically once the building was built..

Re: I__CHAOS__I vs Caesár (Fra vs Jpn)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:27 pm
by Marksman_Anders
I think you did good, considering the matchup: Yumi vs. Musks.