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Versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:07 pm
by slay3r_
any ideas to counter thors around 8 of them with marauders and marines

suggestions would be nice

i've tried roaches ling and infestors

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:11 pm
by DutchNvG
It is indeed pretty hard to counter them. The best thing you can probably do is trying to stun at least some of the thors with infestors and get some nice Hydralisks in there. Make sure the thors can't make full use of the area damage.

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:45 pm
by WarlordR
[quote=""DutchNvG""]It is indeed pretty hard to counter them. The best thing you can probably do is trying to stun at least some of the thors with infestors and get some nice Hydralisks in there. Make sure the thors can't make full use of the area damage.[/quote]

Thor's normal attack is a single-target one, their javelin missiles (anti-air) are AoE. You can only stun movement = useless as you would allow the thor ball to regen using SCV Repair, in any case you will have to take the fight to enemy. Since it takes quite a while to mass up Thors you will be able to get both ultralisk and broodlord, aswell as the zerg's nearly-but-not-completely-best unit: the baneling. It's devastating against any balled up units (mech included) as they can take out the repairing SCV's.

Also don't forget that you have units with skills beyond direct-damage, as I've personally experienced that neural parasite is extremely strong against smaller, as well as larger groups of high-tier units.

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:46 am
by Drag
Really you want to be getting ultras out if they're going mass thor, or any sort of mech late game roaches really can't tank enough damage. You also want to be getting out a lot of banelings to tear through the bio ball, with some fungal growths etc

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:49 am
by DutchNvG
In my opinion Ultralisk is pretty much the worst thing you can do against them...

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:40 am
by Aaryn_GenD
ultralisks only work if he doesn't got too many marauders and you are ahead in eco

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:48 am
by 36drew
The problem with thors is that nothing counters them really hard as zerg. It's not like where banelings absolutely own marines. Lings are okay. In the early stages roaches are okay. Magic box mutas can work but you need to be freaking careful. Ultra's can work okay. Hydras don't work well. Broodlords are okay with good positioning, but they just don't seem viable overall these days. Anyways.

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:59 pm
by WarlordR
Divide et impera - Divide and conquer

Either do not allow the Terran to mass up such amounts of thors or, when you know he's moving out, burrow some banelings/ultralisk in his path and split the army so you will hit more than only the outer layer.

Still remaining with the issue that thors aren't easy to counter nor easy to mass up, especially if your opponent keeps harassing you and has far superior mobility.

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:02 pm
by Roger_The_Rogue
Thors are my babies. ^^

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:12 pm
by slay3r_
god i hate thors haha :D, and ultras arent as good as infestors with neural parasites, infestors with roaches are my only hope :( hydras just get ripped to shreds.... lings well you know they just dance around scratch a bit and die mutas..... errrr with a few marines amongst the thors i find them fragile. thats my opinion >_>

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:23 pm
by DutchNvG
Well, I played a couple of 1v1's today and at one 1v1 I faced a thor spamming player. I don't have a clue what I could have done to prevent losing... Any tips are welcome!

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:27 pm
by HeJurmhoanni
Like said, theres no good conter against massed thors exept broodlord in some situations. Early game, when theres just like 2-4 thors you can kill them easily with lings, roaches or even mutas. So as zerg you should try to keep the thor amount low and not let him mass up. If the terran player whos massing thors just play defensively, doesent attack and just masses up you can easily take like 5 expos and mass drone until you can just make ultras non-stop and overwhelm the terran.

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:55 am
by froggyman
[quote=""DutchNvG""]Well, I played a couple of 1v1's today and at one 1v1 I faced a thor spamming player. I don't have a clue what I could have done to prevent losing... Any tips are welcome![/quote]

You would have owned him if u attacked before like 8-9mins he only had like 8 marines and u had a bunch of zerglings and a baneling nest.. just morph like 5-6 banellings bust ramp = GG

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:21 pm
by DutchNvG
Alright, thanks Francois!

Re: versing mass thors with zerg

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:30 pm
by jerom
Well what I think. Thors don“t have a real counter, but I think they also do not really counter something. They are supposed to counter the mutas and do the job so so, but they aren't a real hard counter. So also the other way around; zerg don't have a real hard counter to them :D