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Although I can easily relate and even understand what ya saying with ur post Soccerdude, the fact of the matter remains.....mankind are 2 blame, the fish, the birds and everything else have no direct fault in this ordeal. It is our doing. It is owr V8´s that need 2 b powered so that we can buy stuff we doing really need or want!

Ill cry more over thousands of animals than over 12 people anyday. The discrepancy between human victims and "animal" victims is still growing everyday and theres no telling when itll all end. But 1 thing is 4 sure, the few people directly responible for this will go unpunished. BP´s share holders will, sooner or l8er (l8er by the looks of things but eventually nonetheless), make a profit on owning this blue chip. The "natives" whos parents and great great parents before them lived off the land in question will perish without any1 ever remembering them. If their lucky a big fancy "modern" fountain will b erected in their memory. It will, however, never b taught in school, there will never b a yearly 5 mins of silence in honour for those lost. History has shown these 3 facts over and over again, regardless of the size, wealth or geographical location of the oil disaster in question.

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PS the world, including US citizens, are currently more interested in other "major" world events, as is the FOOTBALL world cup, than this "old news". The few networks that do try and keep this topic on agenda will show the weather right after showning pelicans drown or fish sucumb on the beaches. From an anthropoligical POV this says so much about us a "specialised and intelegent" race.


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football is much more important now indeed, but that doesnt say we forgot about the oil spill, but no need to have frontpage reports everyday huh?

Its now waiting for the outcome of the hurricane season, one big hurricane can have terrible results
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One big hurricane, right through the center of this, might be the best thing for it. A near-miss causing just a surge of oil into the marshes would be bad (which we almost experienced with Alex), and if a hurricane disabled their containment efforts, that would be bad too. But the oil picked up and spread thinly over 100,000 square miles would cause the oil itself to degrade and disappear very quickly in the hurricane hit areas. It would yield a few bad publicity shots (some playground 50 miles inland with a tar ball, maybe?) but that has little to do with the reality of the situation.

Best case - we get the well sealed up, a hurricane plows directly through the heaviest oil deposits, and we're largely done with this mess. Nothing best case has happened in this thing yet, though.
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The human race is true evil incarnated.

Well we will destroy ourself sooner or later. Possible because the world population becomes to big for the earth recources. Their is going to be a time we are going to have a one child policy like in china...
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Well, since we are the only thing around capable of conceiving of evil, I guess that makes sense. We're also the only thing capable of good...

Population will likely peak around 2050. Not sure exactly how we will know if we have "too many", but it's entirely likely that we will survive the foreseeable future. China is also considering relaxing their 1-child policy now. The problem 100 years from now (demographics-wise) will be not enough young people, and too many expensive old farts hanging around.
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The graying of the population is a not the worst evolution. We can handel it. The problem is when we are with to many in total. You see **** like rabits has also some real downsides in the end.

Some old cultures died out because of an population explotion. And history is a never ending repeating circle.
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[quote=""wicked_assassin""]Mac, it's highly irrelevant if the companies were forgein. They were western based. It's not like us companies posses better technology then other western countries.[/quote]

It's highly relevant when the US political argument is "drill here, drill now" as the path US energy independence vs conservation and alternatives.

One example of this debate are the positions taken by the political celebrity Sarah Palin. She's well known for the phrase "drill baby drill". Before she quit her job as governor of Alaska, she refused to accept $29 million for Alaska from the stimulus package. She mischaracterized section 410 of the stimulus package by falsely claiming “Mandating universal energy building codes throughout our state is not in Alaskans’ common or individual interests”.

I don't agree with her position that selling US oil to "foreign" companies and rejecting conservation makes the US energy independent.
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Sarah Palin is as well-qualified to speak about energy as Charo. In fact, a Palin-Charo ticket for '12 would be awesome. It would mean 4 more years of Obama, but IMHO that would be well worth the awesomeness of seeing that campaign.
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Sarah palin,

I have seen some of her speeches. She is aways saying stuff like taking back america, etc..., but she should try to give some arguments to back up her vision.

The goals of Sarah palin are bid to abstract to me. I don't really get it what she whants.

Of cource i know as much of the us political scene as of the french, german and english political scene.

Politcal leaders are almost never qualified to decide about most stuff. That's why they have their small army of ehm.. experts ...
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