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Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:28 pm
by Sporting_Lisbon
For Destructor:

http://agecommunity.com/stats/GameStats ... _Supremacy

Went toe to toe with Demon until mid fortress, too bad one of his falc shots were faster than mine.

Also a rec vs Simbad for you to see the build order.

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:00 pm
by generalbuschmann
only cause you do it, it isnt the best way to play french. if you watch the last tourney games of h2o flooky samwise (musk+hussar start) you will see that they use exact same strat as destructor, you wont have any wood after you spend it on houses and market ups anyways. 700 wood>700 gold in villager seconds, its much better then having coreurs on all 3 ressources types and the wood gets gathered so slow so u loose even more vill seconds cause the player who sended 700 wood doesnt need to gather wood

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:01 pm
by generalbuschmann
since i cant edit i need to double post :-P
with 700 wood sended you can also save the 700 gold for later for example if you want to age up

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:19 pm
by Sporting_Lisbon
Early on I have nearly no one on coin, so that you can focus on food/wood. I also sent 600c after the 700c. Having 300w-400w idle is worth 0 VS.

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:22 pm
by generalbuschmann
if u make all market ups + the houses u need, nothing of the wood is left^^

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:09 pm
by Sporting_Lisbon
See it as a faster alternative while yours is more like thinking in a medium-long term :p

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:40 pm
by frenchfantom
hm i see some faults with this strat.
1. you have to wait for 700 c til u can even queue 1 musk or huss.
2. for 700 wood, u can still start the queue, u just need to wait for the house to finish the queue.
3.again, as busch stated, its a problem if u need to age later on.
4. u get 700 food later and thats what is really needed to keep the spam going, u were short on food no matter that u had lots on hunts, because to stay unhoused u would need around 5 on wood.
5. without the 700 wood, u would have a much harder time getting upgrades like the 2nd gold upgrade.

Overall, I think the 700 wood is a much stronger strat.

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:40 pm
by Sporting_Lisbon
You didn't even see the rec I posted, I didn't have to wait to queue a musk and a hus.

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:02 am
by frenchfantom
hm. just took a look at the simbad one. I admit defeat because ur such a good macroer. I jsut think i woudl have aharder time doing that. u didnt build early market, and aged with 13 vils, very original, and yet OP play by you. gg

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:16 am
by Sporting_Lisbon
Cheers! The difference isn't much bigger from 700w, it's just that 700c gives you a stronger early spam.

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:59 am
by gendarme
The difference isn't much between 700w and 700c, but since wood gather slower but crates gather at the same speed 700 wood is better and have 0 villies on wood.

Right after that send 700c and put some/all miners on food. Then 8xbow for another military boost.

700f isn't a very good option if you aren't going for a double rax musk rush imo, since food gathers slow and it isn't more effective than coin or wood shipment unless the unit is very food heavy, like musketeers.

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:42 am
by Aaryn_GenD
[quote=""gendarme""]
700f isn't a very good option if you aren't going for a double rax musk rush imo, since food gathers slow and it isn't more effective than coin or wood.[/quote]

food gathers slow? ok ;)

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:43 am
by frenchfantom
yea hthat statement contadicts ur argument...

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:33 pm
by h0m3w0rk
This makes me laugh.

A great player like sporting gives an option for another BO and gets tag teamed. If he can get 5 huss and 5 musk out at the same time and can do enough damage to the opponent then it's worth trying it out for a few games not just poo pooing it on paper. Though I do the 700 wood shipments myself I’m going to be trying Sporting’s option.

I love a good slanging match as long as it's all Banter.

Going to try and be a bit more active see you soon guys. Out!

Re: Destructor2 vs. Saven

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:09 pm
by Aaryn_GenD
oh they weren't bashing h0mew0rk, just stating their opinions and discussing.
both have their role, you know on fp market ups are even more viable than on RE, so the 700w are even better there