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For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:06 am
by deadhanddan
for Kaiser_Von_Nuben

, germany vs spain on andes - fp 1.1a , myself vs 36drew
edit* i renamed game due to ppl getting ''invalid'' error when trying to watch it
Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:07 am
by Aaryn_GenD
yer, i waited long for this dan thanks.
to any 36drew fanboys, i suggest watching this, as the known spain player deadhanddan goes germans (which he has tough time dominatiing with opposed to his mighty spain) against drews spain.
Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:39 am
by Kaiser_von_Nuben
Aww, all this attention is flattering. Apparently my German obsession has led our fine members to equate German play with yours truly, even though most of you are far better players than I am.
I salute you!! Thanks so much for posting, Dan... I'm grabbing a Beck's and will tune in ASAP.
Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:43 am
by deadhanddan

no problemo kaiser , im not really one for playing germany but this game drew takes my beloved spain

haha was a fun game hope you like it

Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:37 am
by Kaiser_von_Nuben
^ Wow, that was a really fun watch! Dan, your raiding was exquisite in that game. I've never seen Drew suffer such annoying pressure in my whole life. That was beautifully done; you must not have had any command lag, because your uhlans kept running at all the right times. If only I could be so lucky :neutral: In any event, you scared Drew off food and forced him into early mill-building. That let you build your own force relatively unharassed. Nice use of the 1000 wood card, by the way. That should be in every German 1v1 deck.
Great use of artillery. Whenever I get to fortress, I always neglect artillery with the Germans; without a 2 falc card it's tricky. But you did great here. Your culvs were right on target. Poor Drew's falcs got caught in a group. After that, your well-mixed force overwhelmed the defense.
Speaking of your units, that was an interesting choice with pikes, doppels, uhlans, xbows and skirms! Very non-traditional, but it worked. My only suggestion for improvement would be always to upgrade your mainline units as soon as you arrive in Age 3. You won those fights in Age 3 with Age 2 grade units! I was also stunned that you never had a stable. I couldn't imagine myself in fortress without an uhlan stream, but you pulled it off marvelously. I need to work in artillery more after watching this! Normally, I just do uhlan/skirm in fortress.
Nicely played, guys! GG.
Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:10 am
by 36drew
It was definetly well played by Dan. It's the first time he's beaten me and he is lucky enough to have it recorded too! I went way to hardcore with villagers here. 3 + 2, plus 2 for aging, then 5 + 4... was also too set on massing xbow/pike. But like you said Ben, the Uhlan pressure was very intense. GG WP!
Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:58 am
by I__CHAOS__I
[quote=""36drew""] 3 + 2, plus 2 for aging, then 5 + 4... [/quote]
roflmao, I've tried that many times and failed repeatedly.
looks cool but just doesnt cut it
Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:49 pm
by gendarme
Omg, with that description Kaiser did I really have to watch this. I never watch recs otherwise, to boring to start AoE just to watch a rec when you can play yourself

Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:11 pm
by Kaiser_von_Nuben
[quote=""gendarme""]Omg, with that description Kaiser did I really have to watch this. I never watch recs otherwise, to boring to start AoE just to watch a rec when you can play yourself

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As to point #1: Yes, I can promote any game with my rhetorical skills. I really enjoy capturing the essence of a game by writing about it; there is a "story" in every game. There was a really good one here.
As to point #2: If I had more time to play, I would. But I do have time to watch recs, and they help me immensely. I even click along as I watch. I can't tell you how much my game has improved since becoming a "rec scholar."

Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:36 pm
by deadhanddan
[quote=""36drew""] I went way to hardcore with villagers here. 3 + 2, plus 2 for aging, then 5 + 4[/quote] lol when i was playing this game , i kept looking @ all ur vills and was wondering '' am i playing vs brits?!?'' haha that was one hell of a boom you had going there

Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:54 pm
by St_Brewer
yeh during a failed rush attempt or a stale mate i have trouble getting my eco rolling properly i looked at everyones score and they have at least 30 on me and they still produce units what are they doing or more importantly what am i not doing lol
Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:15 pm
by deadhanddan
[quote=""St_Brewer""]yeh during a failed rush attempt or a stale mate i have trouble getting my eco rolling properly i looked at everyones score and they have at least 30 on me and they still produce units what are they doing or more importantly what am i not doing lol[/quote] finding that equalibrium between eco and mili production in aoe3 is the hardest part of this game to understand and do. cannot forsake one for the other and must be in total control of both at same time.easier said then done i know, but finding that line is crucial to everygame.
Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:21 pm
by St_Brewer
and while on this topic with the dutch having only 50 vils max, how do u rival other ecos in late game? or is that just the great curse of the dutch?
Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:45 pm
by deadhanddan
dutch are in their prime in early fort/very early industrial. you have to capitolize on their main strength right there and do whatever you can to end the game in that time frame. in fp the dutch are boosted in these areas considerably , while late game the dutch tend to become weaker then their opponets , they are tho stronger then any others in fortress age in particular
Re: For Kaiser - Germany rec
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:49 pm
by St_Brewer
now i can see why the falconet spam is so potent with the dutch, well thanx for the tips dan XD