N3O Age Of Empires and Starcraft 2 Clan

With China I am used to having 28-31 units made by the 7.5 min mark. In my switch to the Iro I am getting anywhere from 20-28 (depending on if I go mainly toma or aenna or 50/50 split).

My main BO for this is:
3 vills
Travios makes a Farm
Vills build a house
Click Age up with the Messenger woman at 3.25-3.5 mins
Move 4 vills to wood, leave rest on food
Build War Hut during transition
Received Travios secures a far out hunt
5 vills
4 vills
Conservative Tactics (rolls in at 7.5 mins)

-Switching 4 vills out for the 7 Aenna shipment might be what I need to fix. Also, the 500 F BB for 5 Toma seems pretty good. If someone can offer me tips to modify this BO for a team game, it would be appreciated. I am still searching for a 3v3 team game with an Iro player in it, yet the Challe, Drew, and Sporting 1v1s have been quite helpful so far.

Main question, how many units should I have by 7.5 mins with the Iro? If anyone wants to list how many units they have with other civs by 7.5 mins, go for it.

Thanks all,
-Vint

Apparently you can get 40 Tomas with Iro at 7 mins, but I think its just bullcrap cos thats like saying you can get 40 muskets at 7 mins, which aint possible even at 8...(unless u get god treasures)

why do you use the travois on a farm? unless you can find many sheep/cows etc... I would make a longhouse with it, and build a TP with the wood. (chop 50 if needed)
5&4 vil shipments are good, but you risk getting outmassed, and iro's power (also in team games) lies in a strong early push imo, so I'd ship military first and vils later.
conservative tactics aint worth it so early with only 30-ish military, in team games there is more overkill usually and a small boost of 10% will not change the battle outcome as much as 7 aenas or 6 tomas would.
the team 4 bears is also ok in 3v3 or 4v4.

hope this helps u a bit.

[quote=""cheesehat""]Apparently you can get 40 Tomas with Iro at 7 mins, but I think its just bullcrap cos thats like saying you can get 40 muskets at 7 mins, which aint possible even at 8...(unless u get god treasures)[/quote]


just tried it on great plains and I had 30 toma + 7 aenas out at 7.05, but eco was really poor

it was much easier when all BB's where available in age II

if your going for early mass, i dont think the 5+4 vils and conservative tactics are the cards to use tbh, in 1v1 i always ship 4 kanya with the messenger age up, or 5 (+4 in some circumstances) with the wise woman for uber market upgrades if i start with 100 gold. but for infantry mass make toma, use toma bb and ship 7+6 aenna, that should work.

-mongolia and other heavy livestock maps - Travois for farm
-Good Trade Post Maps WITH 300 wood start - Travois for longhouse and make a Trade Post.
-Ranged Infantry Civ (definetaly Russia, maybe aztec) - Save Travois for a Corral
- Gold start i make a longhouse with travois and go market and wise woman

By the 7 min mark I usually have around 20-25 lbs. I'm not sure if thats good or bad :neutral:

Best I can do is with Aztecs, I usually have about 45 maces by then, if my starting crates were kind to me.

With the Russians I can have ass loads of strelets. Probably around 70-80

Lol nice. That is a lot of strelets

7 min w/ 70 strels? I can see it, but that's a stretch

[quote=""Warlord678""]By the 7 min mark I usually have around 20-25 lbs. I'm not sure if thats good or bad :neutral:[/quote]

That's about right for Brits.

As many people have found out when I play I usually get about 7 blokes and get slaughtered bah mmm 1 for each min, I really need to work on this LOL

[quote=""emperoral""]As many people have found out when I play I usually get about 7 blokes and get slaughtered bah mmm 1 for each min, I really need to work on this LOL[/quote]

No, you mean 6, and they don't count anyway because they are minutemen.

^ LOL

Anyway I just tried and I got 54 crossbows out in 7:46 mins.

By 7 and a half minutes...

I wouldn't be too sure.

But, roughly:

- 3 Hussars
- 15 to 20 Jans
- 10 to 15 Abus

I'm not sure though... I don't check the clock much!