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Re: Why can't I get any better?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:14 pm
by StrokeyBlofeld
[quote=""lordandcount""][quote=""Sporting_Lisbon""]Forget that idea that you're better by being smart or having logic stuff, imo game experience plays the bigger roll and checking forums and recorded games is very important. Forums are good to know the latest strats, exploits, OP lame stuff, etc. If you cant micro use a civ that needs less micro, like Brit or Russia. If you cant boom use civs like Sioux or Otto. Use what you got ;)[/quote]

And what if you can't micro, can't macro, can't boom and can't rush like me?[/quote]

I can't micro, macro, boom or rush like you, but that's ok.... because I can still fit my head through a doorway. ;)

Re: Why can't I get any better?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:49 pm
by Soccerman771
[quote=""Sporting_Lisbon""]Forget that idea that you're better by being smart or having logic stuff, imo game experience plays the bigger roll and checking forums and recorded games is very important. Forums are good to know the latest strats, exploits, OP lame stuff, etc. If you cant micro use a civ that needs less micro, like Brit or Russia. If you cant boom use civs like Sioux or Otto. Use what you got ;)[/quote]

Brits and Russia are quite micro intensive, IMO. If you can't boom use civs like Otto???? Their eco is weak unless you can boom, plus if you don't know the ins-and-outs of the game (like constantly making vils), using Ottos is one of the worst things you can do as it creates bad habits. I do agree with your statement about game experience playing a large roll in getting better. If you only play corporals and privates, you'll get really good at beating corporals and privates. However if you want to get good, play people 2-3-4 PR above you and learn to beat them.

Re: Why can't I get any better?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:55 pm
by Sporting_Lisbon
Jan rush needs no eco, otto revolt needs no eco, otto FF for mame/spahi doesnt need eco, etc.

Russia is about spamming army, must have less micro than civs like otto or sioux imo. Sioux you lose a battle you lose the game :\

However if you want to get good, play people 2-3-4 PR above you and learn to beat them.
Isn't that about experience too? ;)

Re: Why can't I get any better?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:19 pm
by Kaiser_von_Nuben
[quote=""lordandcount""][quote=""Sporting_Lisbon""]Forget that idea that you're better by being smart or having logic stuff, imo game experience plays the bigger roll and checking forums and recorded games is very important. Forums are good to know the latest strats, exploits, OP lame stuff, etc. If you cant micro use a civ that needs less micro, like Brit or Russia. If you cant boom use civs like Sioux or Otto. Use what you got ;)[/quote]

And what if you can't micro, can't macro, can't boom and can't rush like me?[/quote]

I know what you could try: Pick Japan; build Toshugu shrine near 8 deer; build consulate; choose isolation; put shrines on wood; mass ashis; get some free clubs; hit attack-move toward enemy base and win !! :>:

Re: Why can't I get any better?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:35 pm
by luukje
No you dont get better by picking the op civ and strat. You might get worse.

Let's say I take Japan. And just play Ashi/yumi spam. No specific skill
required. Im lvl 22 at the moment. Im pretty sure I could get 24/25 in a month by just playing Japan. When I was playing Dutch before 1.1 I was easely almost 24. But am I a better player? I dont think so? I'm still the same. I could play ports with the same effort and be lvl 18 probably.
Dont pick the easy or OP civ.

Germany, aztec, Iro are much better at the moment to improve your gameplay.

And Otto at the moment isnt easy. By no mans lol. They are absolutely weak so it actually requires skill to get some wins with them.

Re: Why can't I get any better?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:18 pm
by Kaiser_von_Nuben
I was only kidding about Japan... I have very little respect for shrine-booming Jappo lamers whose units mess up the counter system. I agree that you won't learn anything by taking advantage of current-day imbalances.

Re: Why can't I get any better?

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:23 pm
by Tatltael
[quote=""Cammel""]I think find an OP strat and perfect it and you'll easily hit first luit/captain[/quote]


RANK *****


..no but really, uhm. i reached major from microing sioux to death :D .. im kind of stuck atm but yeah, forget logic. learn a few build-orders for your favorite civ, that way you can be flexible enough to react to.. stuff :) haha

Re: Why can't I get any better?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:02 am
by huGGy
[quote=""Sporting_Lisbon""]

Russia is about spamming army, must have less micro than civs like otto or sioux imo. Sioux you lose a battle you lose the game :\


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In late game i agree, but not in early game. You gotta watch your Cossacks and your Strelets. Sure, other Civs are more micro intense, but russia requires micro as well. When you're Eco is going you can spam like stupid.

Re: Why can't I get any better?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:57 am
by I__CHAOS__I
this game is mainly about eco management I think.
players like grunt NP etc rarely gather too much of anything or stockpile for mo reason.