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Countering Russian rush

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Hey I just got out of a game against russia (i'm aztec) where his deck is basicly made of only 700 / 300 resource cards and he just keeps slamming me with his mass units armies of cossacks muskets and strelets. I hold it for the first and secound time but even with two war huts and the TC he manages to beat me.

(and yes i used the 10 and 9 mace card, but he had too many units for me to counter - maces got owned by cossacks before i could get the puma card)

Can anyone gimme a hand on beating the russian rush?

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keep massing coyotes and have some maces close, dance out your 10 WP's and you should beat the russian
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Yeah, Chaos is right. The key to beating the Russian rush is to just mass cav or cav-like units (coyote runners). Russia's early anti-cav leaves a lot to be desired, with musketeers doing only 30 melee damage vs cav.

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coyote runners are light inf, right? try to rush the russian yourself. you can be faster in age 2 and if you bring down his fb you should win this game.

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Spam coyotes, as the other guys are saying, and just keep a few mace to kill his muskets. He won't stand a chance.
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True. Now i figured why I lost and it all comes down to one simple word: decan.

- He could age fast
- He could make fb faster
- He could start spaming faster and harder
- I got screwed

He gave me no space or time with his full spam coz he was pumped with starting resources as I wasted my starting wood on Firepit, House and TRADING POST (bye bye 250w) T.t

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How to counter Russian if i'm Indian?

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[quote=""Ayane06""]How to counter Russian if i'm Indian?[/quote]
by playing aztec :)
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just spam sepoy and send 4 sowar, build some sowar a bit later and then you should win (if you get better cards :P)
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Just make sure you age up with agra fort and use the 4 sowar card.

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[quote=""lordandcount""]just spam sepoy and send 4 sowar, build some sowar a bit later and then you should win (if you get better cards :P)[/quote]

Not too sure about this. I think mass Strelets + Cossack would beat India sepoy+sowar. I think this matchup favors the Russian, imo. You have to simply out-play him, as the Russian should be able to out-eco the Indian.

You have to get the Russian fb down fast with the 12 Sepoys, then you have a good chance, though. I think more Camels than Sep's though. If you make it to fortress, your ele's should turn the tide for you..
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No way the matchup favours Russia o_O As india you're faster than russia so you should just make pressure early on, that's all.

Later on ghurka/sowar/zam with camel cards should take down russia as well.

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If you are certain he is going to all-out rush you (most likely he will :-P ) I would suggest getting plenty of cavalry or cav-like units, then ship in some ranged infantry. For example, when I play against Russia as the Germans, I immediately build a stable and 5 uhlans, then send my 9 xbows (with 2 extra uhlans). As everyone says, Russia's main early weakness is anti-cav, so do your best to take advantage of that. He will certainly ship in 5 + 4 cossacks, but uhlans normally beat cossacks. I keep building uhlans to stop him; if he starts building more muskets, I switch over to a wood-gathering econ and get some more xbows to help. But I always keep lots of cav on hand.

Another tip: Russia's rush requires huge amounts of food. Chances are he will sacrifice some vil production along the way. If you can knock off a few vils, he will really feel it. I used to rush with Russia on quick match and I know from experience that if the big first push fails, you are in big economic trouble.
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