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Re: Longbow's too OP?
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:38 am
by Sporting_Lisbon
No we can't, we need to have an objective for this game, and it's game balance!

And those 7 patches are reduced to 2 due to play-testing.
Re: Longbow's too OP?
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:12 am
by jonesk
Cheesehat, give the FP team a chance. Nothing I have seen so far has lead me to believe they are going to be another ES, over-boosting and nerfing civs at random.
Re: Longbow's too OP?
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:16 am
by I__CHAOS__I
and it's more fun when the top civs changes after each patch, so at least more than 1 civs gets played. Patches are good, even if perfect balance will never be achieved.
Re: Longbow's too OP?
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:00 am
by Hydrovert5
I think patches potentially bring old players back, even if it is just to test the changes.
Re: Longbow's too OP?
Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:18 am
by TheRam
[quote=""I__CHAOS__I""]and it's more fun when the top civs changes after each patch, so at least more than 1 civs gets played. Patches are good, even if perfect balance will never be achieved.[/quote]
+1
The FP team has lowered Japan and India.
Pre fan patch I would have felt annoyed when QSing and a Jap player came up (that's a lie - I played China and it was a damn nice matchup for me) but now I feel much more confident, knowing that whilst I keep that Jap player inside his TC he's not gathering as much resource as previously with shrines.
New OP civs is awesome, they're now Iro/Aztec - and I QS without native civs! Ohoh! Balanced game of Tier 2 Civs!
Seriously, QSing without TWC civs at present is very balanced, Otto has OP rush skills/water, German has amazing early mass, Jap and India retain their powers, Brit is still incredibly good with lb/pike if played defensively and boomed.
The game is as good as it's ever been, more based on skill than FF GET MAHOUTS GG.
Re: Longbow's too OP?
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:44 am
by Wetmelon
This topic has kinda moved from LB's being too OP to patch stuff. Save the patch stuff for the FP topic, shall we?
But I love the fact that LBs are getting -1 attack, +.25% to HI. They weren't quite effective enough against HI as they historically should have been, and just a bit too good against Cav... could beat them too often. This will make using them vs pikes a little easier now
Historically, trained LBmen had a four second RoF... muskets had a ~15+ second RoF and rifles were worse. Who would really win? I realize that the game isn't necessarily about pure realism, but it's nice to try to keep some historical accuracies in the game.
Re: Longbow's too OP?
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:37 pm
by LaZy

stick 2 mating whales young man.
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