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Round 3 - Rufio_eht vs Soccerman771

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:17 pm
by Soccerman771
Rufio_eht vs Soccerman771
Iroquois vs British
Texas
Winner: Soccerman771

Ok, I did my normal 17 vil age switching 1/2 vils to wood from food. I was going for better eco and a very slow Fortress Age. I knew he was going to rush with the town destroyer and 100's of tomas. I had 15 lb's and 5 spies waiting for him. That with TC fire from CM finished off his rush. After that, I aged to fortress, boomed setup my FB (not all in that order) and went grens/hussar/lb's/musks. After two houses, the firepit and his TC he resigned.

I'd like good hard feedback on this..

VGG Rufio.

Re: Round 3 - Rufio_eht vs Soccerman771

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:09 pm
by huGGy
Without seeing the game yet, try to put more than 1/2 of your villies on wood while aging. First build a market, pimp your wood income, get another house and after aging put more villies on food again. Your first card should be 700 wood then. Don't know if you did, i'll watch it the upcoming days.

Re: Round 3 - Rufio_eht vs Soccerman771

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:42 pm
by Soccerman771
Huggy, it was close to that. What would you say is a good ratio? 6 food 11 wood or 7 food 10 wood? My second card was the 5 spies due to the expected beefed up war chief. I did lay off the market for too long think back now...

Re: Round 3 - Rufio_eht vs Soccerman771

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:20 pm
by kingchrisII
i do 4 food rest wood, then make houses market, the switch more to food, and ship 700w, then 5 then 4 vills!

2/3 on coin about 2/3 of age up to make musks

Re: Round 3 - Rufio_eht vs Soccerman771

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:39 pm
by huGGy
[quote=""Soccerman771""]Huggy, it was close to that. What would you say is a good ratio? 6 food 11 wood or 7 food 10 wood? My second card was the 5 spies due to the expected beefed up war chief. I did lay off the market for too long think back now...[/quote]

Depends on what you want to build. Did you age up with Tower and 200 coins? If you want to build Muskets (+Hussars) i think 7 / 10 is ok. Switch 3 or 4 Settlers back to food after building the market and a house. First card in Age 2 should always be 700 wood for houses and a barrack. After that ship 5 vills. Normally you have 5+ muskets out now. If you really expect an attack ship 6 muskets as your 3rd card in Age2.

If you want to build Lbs let more people gather wood in the beginning and don't switch them back to food. You need plenty of wood for houses and Lbs. I'll watch the game now. Maybe i can give you some tips.

Or if you want to, we can play unrated, record the game and i can give you some advices due to the game.

Re: Round 3 - Rufio_eht vs Soccerman771

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:20 am
by huGGy
Ok, watched it. Didn't realized it was Texas lol. You have 2 Towers and already a Barrack set up, so no need for Spies imo. Ship 700 Wood first and start messing houses. After that ship 5 Villies like kingchris and i mentioned. Your LBs worked well vs his Tomahawks, but they were without any shield. If he had shipped kanyas you would problably had a big problem there. So if you go for LBs build at least 5 Pikes to defend 'em. I prefer muskets (cheaper, can defend vs horses and got upgrade cards). Oh and don't chose cards you don't need atm. You selected this card for muskets and grens and went for a stable. Maybe you should have selected the card for horses (+15% attack). Last but not least try to organize your ressources better. You always had plenty of them. Build troops asap and build these houses. They give you an enormous eco boom (you had ~2000 wood).

@rufio: Why rush on texas and not a nice iro-ff ? =)

gg

Re: Round 3 - Rufio_eht vs Soccerman771

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:47 am
by I__CHAOS__I
lb's pwn the kanya shipment in my experience... if you fight between your houses etc and tomahawks are just pathetic units. The more I use em, the less I like em. They need a boost. I don't care how many cards they can ship, they are just so much worse than musks. (not even talking about ashis or sepoys)

Re: Round 3 - Rufio_eht vs Soccerman771

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:47 am
by kingchrisII
massed out lbows + a few hussar should be iro done with lol!

and after u ship 5 vills, if he rushin i usually ship 6 lbow or musks, and keep spammin musks or lbows should beat an iro

Re: Round 3 - Rufio_eht vs Soccerman771

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:11 am
by Soccerman771
[quote=""HuggyPierre""]Ok, watched it. Didn't realized it was Texas lol. You have 2 Towers and already a Barrack set up, so no need for Spies imo. Ship 700 Wood first and start messing houses. After that ship 5 Villies like kingchris and i mentioned. Your LBs worked well vs his Tomahawks, but they were without any shield. If he had shipped kanyas you would problably had a big problem there. So if you go for LBs build at least 5 Pikes to defend 'em. I prefer muskets (cheaper, can defend vs horses and got upgrade cards). Oh and don't chose cards you don't need atm. You selected this card for muskets and grens and went for a stable. Maybe you should have selected the card for horses (+15% attack). Last but not least try to organize your ressources better. You always had plenty of them. Build troops asap and build these houses. They give you an enormous eco boom (you had ~2000 wood).

@rufio: Why rush on texas and not a nice iro-ff ? =)

gg[/quote]

Thank you very much for the feedback. I watched the replay again and realize what I did wrong. Playing the musk/gren card at that time was pathetic. I should have definitely had the musk meatshield. It would have saved my 2 cannon shipment as I moved it up-field.

I didn't normally harrass as much with my horsies as I usually do...It was very late >12 midnight...