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Brits me) vs Chinese 2lt

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:48 pm
by I__CHAOS__I
Surprise !!! I get a chinese in QS :neutral:

anyway, after maybe 5-6 months, I felt like playing good ol' brits again.
I'm rusty as hell and would like some pointers.

thx 8)

Re: Brits me) vs Chinese 2lt

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:48 am
by MizzKid92
Not bad, not bad at all. You played well, but there are a few things I noticed that you should think about doing next time.

SCOUT
-I couldn't help but notice that you never scouted his base. 20 mins into the game I was still waiting for your cav to pass through his base. Scouting could have saved you the grief of that first battle. Musks are almost never a good idea to start against China. And if you would've scouted his base early, you could've seen that longbowmen would have been a much better choice. Send your explorer into his base to see what he's making next time, it could change the outcome of the game.

RAID
-Several times he had vills out in the middle of nowhere, ripe for the picking. Raiding is a great key to winning a game, even one vill can make a big difference in the long run. Once again, you need to scout first, look for things like falling trees or dead animals in the fog of war, and then send in your cav.

UNITS
-I already talked about how muskets aren't usually a good idea against China. If you would've started making lb from the beginning, I'm sure he would've resigned much earlier. Not only are lb better than most other early units, they are also fairly effective against small batches of cav. If he decides he wants to make more cav, then pikes are easily thrown in for the macro you already have set up.

-Make sure you micro your cav well. In that first attack you sent your cav straight into his pikes! Hussars have bad pathfinding to begin with, so make up for it with good micro.

VILS
-Watch your idles. Quite a few times I noticed you had multiple villies just standing around. Fishing boats were idle quite a bit as well. Just make sure you keep an eye on that tab in the top left corner next time.

PROS
-Your early strategy economy wise was great. Getting up those manors was good, so I really don't have much to talk about here. You did a nice job of keeping your vils safe when he came in to raid/attack.

-There's plenty of other things you did well, but those are the things I don't need to harp on as you obviously already know! I hope this helps!

:o -Jusitn Seabaugh- :o

Re: Brits me) vs Chinese 2lt

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:51 am
by ZoRPrimE
Very nice Game Chaos, that guy being 2nd LT I imagine had a lot to do with being China all the time. He had a strong rush but hung out in front of your TC the whole time barely dented your villies or military buildings. You made very good choices on units to build and sending Colonial Militia. He duked it out with the militia while they still had thier HP! Your base planning aggressive hounding of his forward villager. I think you would have won even if he had taken down your TC. Not exactly vital for a brit to make villies. He built the right units for age 3! Unfortunately he was horrible at keeping up villie production. The guy never built diciples as far as I can tell!! This is a good example of how much diciples add to the China OP equation.

Way to show em that not just any punk with China can come take down your Brits!!

Re: Brits me) vs Chinese 2lt

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:42 am
by KingKaramazov
Nice job Chaos, I'll check it out.

I'm thinking of looking into the Brits. I can only lame with China for a few games before I lose any sense of satisfaction from winning. Even a few games is stretching it, actually.

Re: Brits me) vs Chinese 2lt

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:50 am
by StrokeyBlofeld
Was a very good game. Only thing I can really say is I felt very uneasy about your military production. I guess you knew what you were doing, but I would have felt happier to see more units earlier. He didn't seem to hit you that hard really, and if he had then I think you may have had more problems.

Re: Brits me) vs Chinese 2lt

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:44 pm
by I__CHAOS__I
thx guys (especially mizzkid!)
being my first brit game I had no idea what to make, I think having 10-ish musk at start is never a bad thing, even vs china. I just shouldnt have wasted em, dunno what went wrong there, there didnt attack, just moved in the enemy pack :(
I was too busy booming and balancing my eco to scout properly, knowing he would rush. I need to work on that for sure.
It's the map I hate most (ask craz lol) and somehow I get it served a lot...
fishing is good, but boats go idle so fast there.
brits sure aint an easy civ ;)

Re: Brits me) vs Chinese 2lt

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:48 pm
by StrokeyBlofeld
I agree on the map, very difficult to play IMO. I hate hisp. And even more so with Brits as it is hard to decide what to do.