The Portuguese Colonial Bust- a Fanpatch 1.1 Strategy!

[Tubruk]

Chaos, are you using the 300 food card =O
and how many vil age-up do you do?

[I__CHAOS__I]

10vil age up, 300wood first card
don't waste any time picking up starting wood/coin, don't herd far away hunts, save every split second you can

[IndyBrit]

Cammel,
No disrespect, but I'm WAY ahead of you here. Every time I play Ports in Colonial it's a BUST, even before the FP.

[Oukka]

Thank you cammel! I enjoy playing ports but in colonial a just couldnt do anything like this. Have you tried this against lb/pike or china? (thinking ways 2 beat Hejurm) :-P

[LaZy]

Ive tried this strat 4 the last couple of days now and have made the follwoing conclusions.

a) i was a noob b4 I read this thread
b) I am still a noob
c) my BO is as follows: Zero cards sent in age I. vil assignment EXACTLY like Cammel suggests. Once in Colonial I ship 8 Xbows, build 1 (ONE) barax right next 2 my new forward TC. Grab the 400 wood from age up and start 2 mass houses and market. Pump out 5 musks in 1st batch just and ship 700wood. As soon as I have the 8 xbows and 5 musks I push. Works very well. Only thing is that I dont make my 2 barax until Im on the 700w shipment (instead of buidling 2 barax ASAP!). Next card is 6 musks. This is where I think my start excels since I can have a rather large, versatile, army very quickly. Only then will I decide if Im gonna pimp my musks, shipp 700 food or call it GG.

thoughts on shiping 6 musks vs 700 food?

out

[Hydrovert5]

If you're pushing hard, ship your musks. If it's a scenario where neither player is fighting, ship 700F, as a general rule of thumb.

[Tubruk]

i'd choose 700 food every day of the week helps keep the 2 TCs active while keeping up with military production.
iv even seen mayh3m use a similar strat Vs damnit on agesanc.

[TheRam]

If you get good wood treasures then ship 700 food second, as long as you aren't housed and have enough pressure to not worry about getting raided then you can take full use of the double rax ASAP for 10 muskets.
5 Musks + 8 Xbow with 10 Musks as your second batch is possible.

Chaos, your strat seems interesting but I don't think it's so wise to focus solely on a rush as ports, I mean obviously my point is to get a fast strong military, but ports aren't as versatile economy wise as a rush civ like Iro or China, if you fail with that rush you'll be outboomed by both of these civs.
I'd be happy to try it sometimes, it might beat this rush because your forward TC will be up before mine, so I'd have to build back, but I think a straight FF is always best in a port mirror.

[TheRam]

Posted a rec, me VS Tatltael, anyone interested in the strategy watch!!!

[huGGy]

[quote=""Cammel""]Posted a rec, me VS Tatltael, anyone interested in the strategy watch!!![/quote]

Erm, is it only me who can't find the rec? Help pls, i want to watch it 8O

[TheRam]

At the bottom of my first post mate!
Another game, my rush vs an Iro PR 34 player.
I've modified my strat, so for anyone who's interested the card order is now this:
8 Xbow, 6 Musk, 700 Food.
Ship 8 Xbow asap, send em to your forward, make 5 musk asap at forward and 6 Musks will arrive just after your 2nd TC is up, so ship em to your forward.
11 Musk + 8 Xbow and as a frame of reference, last guy I played (Iro) at had 5 Toma 6 Aenna at this point.
OP.

[I__CHAOS__I]

Cammel, did you try my version? U get the same out but faster.

[TheRam]

Nah I haven't Chaos, my style of play is to harass and get an econ and I feel the extra vills in my strat help, and I haven't been in the mood for unrated testing.

[deaconferal]

Thanks for the strat Cammel, been using it quite a lot lately and doing well/enjoying it.

One quick question though, against Dutch is this viable or is it better to just go to fort with him and compete there? I was torn up several times using this because defensive skirms with buildings as cover wouldn't allow me to get my army anywhere close to him. Or perhaps a slower start opening with hussars would be better... thoughts?

[Tubruk]

I was able to beat a dutch major using this. It can be dangerous if they anticipate the rush and build defensively but luckily in my case he put his stable upfront so he didnt have any heavy infantry counter for quite some time.