Discuss Implications of these Stats?

[36drew]

http://70.72.80.26/eso2/weeklysupremacytad.php

I know some people blab on about certain civs being UP/OP/balanced, etc. Thoughts?

[Sporting_Lisbon]

Is it for everyone? If yes, it doesn't matter much as it will only show the easiest and hardest civs to play with.

[Kaiser_von_Nuben]

Very interesting. Well, it looks like the Aztecs and the Indians have a major edge, more so than the overall statistics page would suggest. There were a few other noteworthy points: (1) Native settlers have higher survivability than all others...even more than SWs; wonder why? Don't the Iros, Sioux and Aztecs get raided? (2) Old-line mercs (ie, Jaegers) have significantly higher survival rates than regular units; (3) Ashigarus have an extremely high survival rate considering how many are made and compared to regular muskets; (4) Abus didn't do as well as I expected; (5) uhlans are more likely to die than strelets :neutral: ; (6) Xbows and pikes are pretty lousy in the life expectancy department; (7) Bowriders are awesome and rarely die; and (8) hussars died more than I expected.

Also, I found it funny that CKNs outlived skirmishers!

[Soccerman771]

How is the petard not at the bottom?

[Tubruk]

[quote=""Soccerman771""]How is the petard not at the bottom?[/quote]

he used them to raid

[TheRam]

TOLD YA INDIA > JAP IN OP LAMENESS.
ohohohohoh.
+1 for Cammel!

[Tatltael]

i hate russia so much

[Sporting_Lisbon]

Dear Cammel, go check if they're playing India in WCG.

[Kaiser_von_Nuben]

[quote=""Tatltael""]i hate russia so much[/quote]

Russia tradtionally gets the highest win % overall. I attribute this to the ease with which a relatively unskilled player can overrun opponents at the lower ranks. I remember when I first played QS as a very nooby Corporal, I won 15 straight just spamming strels and cossacks from an FB. I think that happens a lot, and that is why Russia always has a singificantly higher win % than other standard civs.

And late game they get even stronger. Overall, their individual units really stink. They always get killed a lot more than they kill. But the strength is in the spammage... and take your eye off the mini-map for one second and oprichs might obliterate your entire economy. That's how they do it.

[I__CHAOS__I]

these stats are useless imho
people pick their opponents sometimes, refuse match-ups or only lame counter civs etc...
I stopped caring about that a long time ago

[36drew]

[quote=""Sporting_Lisbon""]Is it for everyone? If yes, it doesn't matter much as it will only show the easiest and hardest civs to play with.[/quote]

Well, the easyness of a civ to play would contribute to it be OP, wouldn't it?

[cleeduz]

I think it's odd, that the native civs do not have many people using them, but their win %'s are among the best. Just an observation...

[36drew]

[quote=""cleeduz""]I think it's odd, that the native civs do not have many people using them, but their win %'s are among the best. Just an observation...[/quote]

Interesting indeed...

[Kaiser_von_Nuben]

[quote=""36drew""][quote=""cleeduz""]I think it's odd, that the native civs do not have many people using them, but their win %'s are among the best. Just an observation...[/quote]

Interesting indeed...[/quote]

My explanation: 10+9 maces, coyote combat, 6 pumas, 2 free skulls, converted guardians, 5 coyotes built, 5 coyotes shipped, attack at 5:40; if they're still alive, mass coyotes and maces, send 3 priests, do a war dance. GG.

[Sporting_Lisbon]

[quote=""36drew""][quote=""Sporting_Lisbon""]Is it for everyone? If yes, it doesn't matter much as it will only show the easiest and hardest civs to play with.[/quote]

Well, the easyness of a civ to play would contribute to it be OP, wouldn't it?[/quote]

Russia's easier to play for a corporal than Japan laming because they don't even know of it, that's what I mean.