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sad thing is most of the info regarding ''colonial america'' is withheld from classroom textbooks, reason is they deem this info ''inappropriate'' but in actuallity is a slow way to try to erase the past and reword it to a shape a more ''appropriate'' and friendly early-america
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Happy Thanksgiving for whoever celebrates it.


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I ate a lotta Turkey!

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That is an interesting question too. Isn't chicken better than turkey? I find turkey less tasty :S Now that's a good topic :D
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No, turkey is much better. I have a pet parrot and I call him Chicken for his nick name. I find it mildly amusing but no, turkey is much better.
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Don't you have to get some kind of sauce to eat the turkey?
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Turkey itself tends to bevery dry and has to be mixed with some kind of sauce, but chicken itself can be quite dry depending on the quality of the chicken and the part of the chicken you eat, light meat ie the breast is much drier than the dark meat, leg.

But I prefer chicken I cant stand dry meat, just doesnt taste nice to me.
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I declare chicken is the best... in my opinion. :D Chicken tastes a lot better I could eat chicken anytime. Gotta love heated chicken covered in gravy put inbetween 2 slices of italian bread. I don't really care how dry they are but for me chicken has more flavor and can be mixed in with stuff easier than turkey.
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Chicken is one meat, turkey is another. Far more can/has been done with chicken so its really not a fair comparison :(
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[quote=""Saint""]Chicken is one meat, turkey is another. Far more can/has been done with chicken so its really not a fair comparison :([/quote]
The reason why more has been done with chicken is because it is a superior meat product.
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Do we need a chicken/turkey poll??
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[quote=""deadhanddan""]sad thing is most of the info regarding ''colonial america'' is withheld from classroom textbooks, reason is they deem this info ''inappropriate'' but in actuallity is a slow way to try to erase the past and reword it to a shape a more ''appropriate'' and friendly early-america[/quote]

So true, Dan. I lived my childhood in a town (Mystic, Connecticut) not knowing that 750 women and children were deliberately shut into a wooden fort and burned to death 1 mile from my house in 1637. I had to do my own research on the matter and was shocked to discover this. There actually used to be a statute dedicated to the colonial leader who committed this atrocity. It was taken down in 1993.

I agree with you, Indy, that the best we can do at this point is simply to commit ourselves to never allowing such things to happen again. I did find it interesting that you called economics a "peaceful" pursuit in contrast to war. I have a slightly bleaker view of economics (or "commerce" as I like to call the whole dynamic that surrounds economic exchange), namely that economics can be extremely warlike without a formal war being declared. Ruthless competition between economic competitors can lead to all sorts of nastiness, including violence and colonialism. In the end, it's all about making a profit, no matter the human cost (uh oh, I've invited some charges that I'm a closet commie now 8O ).
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[quote=""Kaiser_von_Nuben""][quote=""deadhanddan""]sad thing is most of the info regarding ''colonial america'' is withheld from classroom textbooks, reason is they deem this info ''inappropriate'' but in actuallity is a slow way to try to erase the past and reword it to a shape a more ''appropriate'' and friendly early-america[/quote]

So true, Dan. I lived my childhood in a town (Mystic, Connecticut) not knowing that 750 women and children were deliberately shut into a wooden fort and burned to death 1 mile from my house in 1637. I had to do my own research on the matter and was shocked to discover this. There actually used to be a statute dedicated to the colonial leader who committed this atrocity. It was taken down in 1993.

I agree with you, Indy, that the best we can do at this point is simply to commit ourselves to never allowing such things to happen again. I did find it interesting that you called economics a "peaceful" pursuit in contrast to war. I have a slightly bleaker view of economics (or "commerce" as I like to call the whole dynamic that surrounds economic exchange), namely that economics can be extremely warlike without a formal war being declared. Ruthless competition between economic competitors can lead to all sorts of nastiness, including violence and colonialism. In the end, it's all about making a profit, no matter the human cost (uh oh, I've invited some charges that I'm a closet commie now 8O ).[/quote]

I'll grant you that economics is a form of violence and can certainly be unfair, ruthless, etc. My basic premise, which is an axiom of mine and I cannot offer proof, is that raw violence is the worst atrocity, and that replacing greater atrocities with lesser is at least an incremental improvement. And you're a commie. ;)
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Turkey FTW
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Indeed. Turkey FTW!!! It's why Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday...THE FOOD!!!


(And, Cleeduz, I lost that epic tilt on Plymouth. I was using Ottoman (Turkey...get it?), against Japan. I had no counter for what he was bringing....and I played like crap too.)
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